<Side quest offer>                  April 4      Symbolic Economic   Capital Cultural Social  -Submit paper on April 4: text and critical framework Jopet: Avengers and ... PR: What's your course? Poetry? [laughs] "If you want to use CL 122 as a practice course for your thesis, then that's more practical... But if you're bored with your thesis, then that's fine... No problem. Two things if that is your topic or related to your paper and you just--" Proposal: Primary text and critical framework and tell me what you wish to look at in the literary text rel. to your course.  PR: "Or is there any other text you want to explore? Think about it first. What do you want to explore." </Side quest offer> Maui: I discussed about [reading]. There's a story in the first part and I forgot it's all in Arabic - ang terms nila.  . . . Maui: This is to show doxa, heterodoxa, and heterodoxy, how something becomes common sense - tradition - and anything that comes from it becomes orthodox, and anything that is against it is heterodoxy.  PR: He later talks about how heterodoxy emerged. You can move forward. That's just the purpose of the long-- But you know what, it's a good read. The anthropological quote on how men and women act ... orthodox practices are established.  Maui: Heterodox comes out when ... does not ... order[?] Maui cont.: If either of them are found displaced or not in their place it would be called heterodoxy or heterodox. It arises suspicion in their community. PR: If they're not in their right place and th... it's questionable. Maui: So going further, when the conditions of existence are ... are very differentiated ... [?] Maui: It's been established that all of them do these activities. There's little differentiation between what they should be doing in that particular time. So that's why it becomes the doxa... It's taken for granted. I think that's about it. Basically that's all what Bordieu wants to ... in that . PR: Disposition is another term. Does he define disposition there? He makes use of that word. Disposition in the habitus. Habitus is the socially acquired position. The disposition is now tied to habitus. Are you aligned?  Isa: Yes ma'am.  PR: So disposition.. you use it it's very .. kahit sa wiki ... Isa: Habitus is ingrained habits, skills, and disposition.  PR: But in Bourdieu's terms ... Does he explain it technically? Isa: Shared by social class, religion, Maui: nationality, education, and profession PR on white board: social class, religion, ...[can't understand handwriting] Isa: There's a hierarchy involved. People are not only born into the hierarchy but they actively sustain the practices without realizing it. Like in the story in the first part ... institutions ... In a society w/o a self-regulating market with their own systems, relations of domination can be sustained by .... they define their own religion, their own culture, they have thier own family, sort of modes of interaction, or they have rights during the harvest, what they do.. So everything Maui talked about ... Agents would mean the institutions. So the only way for the hier. to be sustained, between men and women, is through conformity. That's the simplest form of community, but in a more complex, domination doesn't need to ... it's like a chicken and egg situation. Those that have high econ. and ... ??? Appro PR: they have different ways of understanding the ... PR: Iba iba ang terms but more or less talking about the same power.  PR:  Maui: the overall effect of this is [??]  [I should've eaten breakfast because I can't comprehend anything anyone is saying.] PR: Let's take a look at Foucault's idea, where you regulate itself because you feel that the state is looking. Class: Panopticon.  Isa: The second big concept is the sustenance of doxa in practice. [reading] It means that practice is sort of practiced [chuckles]. There's a set of social relations .... that system is sustained to conformity to that system.  [campaign interrupt?] PR: Next class na lang. Isa: These are the more social level interaction like table manners, using honorifics, sort of like intimate relations, but in the larger scale there's sets [?] conferring deeds for example or land, war hero or military people. Giving diplomas during graduation. Paper becomes representation of the abstract concept of accumulated knowledge through time or the abstract concept of competence. It's objectification. PR: Take note of that. Isa: It's not part of the MeToo Movement. PR: [didn't catch it] Isa: Your degree becomes objectified into a diploma or a medal. These will help you accrue symbolic capital to these objects... The actual econ. capital that becomes translated into the cultural ... The shinier the medal... you.... PR: What is the min. now? if you want to enter into the university? Masters. You know it's gonna be a PhD. ... There are brilliant professors with no MA. [person name] victim of Martial Law; they accrued symbolic capital through what?  : First hand experience. PR: If you're an editor of ten books that's not enough. You have to write a book. [people] were declared. : They also counted the awards as... PR: everything you do in ... counts. When I had .... they were required to submit a CV? HS students now need to write a CV so they apply to schools. Mga bata they write their poetry in their CVs. No, they're counting they're points because they know that translates into economic points. But they're not to blame, and their parents. You'll be surprised at how parents push their children these days. They make them join contests. Fashion contests when small kids wear heels. You know they're kids, right? Can't they just play?  PR: Do grades now count when you take UPCAT?  Class: forty percent. PR: That's good, they look at your performance. ... You have to good because that's your cultural capital. Isa: There's an example here but it's more or less the same. ... Appropriation... A degree will get you a job and help you gain econ and cult. capital.... sustaining the practice and sustaining... The paradox is that the social field - which is the field where this all happens. All this stuff happens in the field. The paradox is that the field is autonomous but it operates acc. to  [interrupt ??] PR: Just ignore them. So bad [chuckles] so bad. Isa: EVen if it's autonomous there's peopel to hold the reins? Whether or not the instit. explicitly or obviously , directly imposes certain practices, the doxa is still ... so it looks autonomous but there's a population that controls it. The next concept is econ. capital, the imp. distinction is that wealth or mat. wealth is not necessarily econ. capital. Because it [def] . If you have actual money, there's institutions and ... credit, money lending, loading, diff. financial inst. that allow less privileged states to loan and perform in equal power as more privileged states. For as long as you have capability to act the way who has actual money does, then you have econ. capitl PR: Money is not enough, you have to translate it into more power? Don't you wonder all those huge capitalists? Don't you ask yourself how much do you need to survive in this world. Why would these capitalists keep building and building and building. Cubao - doesn't have empty space. There used to be a space there in gateway farmer's plus now they're building buildings right and left. How much would these bigwigs need to survive. Si Tatang hindi nagkasakit, natulog lang, si Henry Sy. Diba he slept and died, hindi [] yung funds niya for hospitalization. Anyway, what's the logic there, you keep building and earning and earning? That's what business people would say you have to sustain your entire lifestyle. But why do you need to feed the lifestyle of the consumer? Isa: To create demand? PR: Is it selfish in that sense? What do capialists need to sustain?  Jopet/h? Cash flow PR they have to feed their employees, right? You ahve to ... feed employees would mean-- that's why they have contractual because it's diff. to give benefits at the end f the year. Parang it's an ecosystem??? Isa: There needs to be a mobilization of private capital sources. Consumerism, privatization, economic bubbles because of overspending or because of the cultural spending money you don't have. So because the econ. cpaital is sustained, the relationship of individuals to money is mediated by garriters? media ?? .. all operate to ... This would be your village marketing system, so w/o these complex inst. it would be bartering. BUt the capitalist system has approp. it and created it and elevated it into this dependence on these international inst. PR: ... Imploded.. It's still trade and barter, but of a different type. There's still ... That's why the US collapsed, because no one sustained it.  Maui: Loans? PR: It's a credit card economy. When I travelled I never wanted to use a credit card. Takot na takot ako diyan, I would pay hundred dollars. Tingnan ka pang ganon. "ID please." It's a plastic economy and they really encouraged people to .. You go to malls-- what do peopple offer you? Maui: Credit card. PR: They take a look at your ID, UP, "Hindi to pwede" So for a certain time our phone their has a list of numbers, they look at the number, kasi credit card company, so you're left with five thousand, what do you use to pay your credit card? Bordieu says is a soft kind of violence?  Isa: It also explains why the capitalist system is sustained. It takes money from you, it takes away spending power from you, but at the same time, makes you borrow spending power. At the same time, people find it hard to escape because even your basic goods are provided by the system, so it has to sustain this mode of interaction in order to sustain itself. So that's why people are so hungry for capital, it's not necessary their fault  PR: It's so easy to say "Guys, don't use a credit card." If you can't pay with cash then don't buy it. Ano kayo, baluktot if hindi kaya. ...Higher EQ? Isa: Cultural capital is cultural inheritance, acad. qualifictations, and legitimated knowledge.  PR: Legitimated knowledge, university knowledge.  Isa;.... In incorporated state, the cult. sources were transferred to you by the educational system. SO there's some people who ... Well not some people. On the basic level people are oriented with things like Romeo and Juliet so these are the cult. sources that are... but it has to be sustained by cultural production, so you have trends in fashion or music or in rap? or in lit. even, thru community not necess. in school PR: Or that you acquired. Abiility to speak english gives you edge, all the skills and knowledge will give you cultural capiotal. SO that cliche parents telling children "Wala akong ipamana sayo except education"? Ex; in the provinces with so many kids the parents think the kids are capital or capital in the form of labor, but whatever it is it would be capital. Isa; some societies, a number of societies don't necessarily have a high level of production, they source their cultural production from the incorp. state. Lit. becomes preserved by moving beyond human limits. [text mention] ... the state or the system can monopolize the distribution of ... because they can monopolize ... they decide how writing and reading should be done what to read when children shuold start reading, other things not decoded in the text/ it just means that the state does not necessarily or is not necessarily distant in the learning of individuals or ... because they have a strong role as a mediator in your acquisition of cultural resources. PR: Does it even insert direct effort in state univ.s. The state doesn't intervene in the curriculum or...? That's how it is in the doxa. Give me a uni that the state really intervenes.. What is the closest state interv.  : CHED? PR: You familiar with the OBE? Educ guys, the object? Isa: Outcome PR Outcome based .. so it comes in the form of a template. How long can you isolate yourself. if you transl. into the outer world, why do we need to lessen the number of GEs. What is the claim of the other colleges? Following your example , it's just cultural capital. A lot of grads ... what college will be greatly affected if we retain our thirty-six. they say hindi sila natatanggap because they lack education. What college ? Engineering. I think they now have twenty-one units. because their graduates are not accepted abroad. Parnag kapos, kulang ng two years. How long can you stay from everything when there you have the social univers,e you can't operate outside of that, and if you find your cultural capital small, you go to a uni that offers such. But there's a college here with only eighteen units, or they have a way of counting their units but the basic is twentu-one Kezia: Forty-five ma'am.  PR: Hindi sila gumalaw. Ang kahirap-hirap na ano... Eduk has forty-five. You're lucky. Keziah: forty-five. CAL? Fifteen times three. PR: Ah you're an old student of an older batch. oo. Older batch.  Keziah: Five classes per MST, [] and AH. Fifteen times trhee. PR: Parang tinetest pa ako [laughs] Class [laughs] Pr: what is social capital? Isa: It's more of a -- something that you're born into. Like acuiqred.  PR: if i's acuqired you're not born into it Isa; Like if you're born into a good family. PR: ? Brad: Reputasyon Josh: Pedigree. PR: Parang aso lang yan, pedigree. Privilege it's more of a neutral term. But when you say that, it's like who you know. It will translate into econ. power. Givem e one. Isa: it's easier for a man. Ex: fraternities.  PR: Society doesn't work like... PR: Why is it more diff. to get women to get together. It must be the homo-erotic-social "women are catty"? thing [laughs] Class [laughs] .. Isa; in a larger sense. they can also acquire social capital. PR: last semester UP. Brad; UAAP. PR: Symbolic capital. Kung nanalo, that's a consideration. But actually it depends so much. La Salle invests a lot in their teams. You're required to maintain a certain [] and win championships. It's only in UP that CHK look down on them. Here if you have pedigree hindi, it doesn't also coun. People look down on you. May student ako naka-tsinelas lang, flawless writer. From Poveda. Para siyang artist lang. Forgive me for saying this but you don't look like a Povedan. SHe said, she worked against the genes. Because the moment she walked into UP... she knew. .. PR: We have our own social-- what is social field? Isa: it's the space where all of his happens. Edit board: Social Field April 4 Etc. acrostic writings PR: Say you wouldn't get published in a uni if you don't know the right person. If it's cult. its-- Isa; The canons are decided. PR: The canon formation, it's rarely econ. tho it should trnaslate to econ capital. ... Karina Bulas who used to head National bookstore? Because it follows a certain template. A pub house has to survive. In UP it takes three years to publish. You'd be lucky if it was a lit. field, but if it's social sciences, you go to a dif. publisher. Any question? You know how it figures into your analysis? YOu talk about publication of the books you teach, then you can use Bordieu, who has control of the pub industry? Isa: A few more buzzwords. I think... False consciousness. PR: Whose word? Isa: Marxist PR: Misrecognition Isa: Which means that recog. the doxa as the way things have always been so it's accepted because it's status quo.  PR: For raymond williams it's hegemonic thought because everyone thinks it's correct. Isa: Symoblic vioelnce. It happens when the dom dismisses dominated and isnists they are right or the norm. It happen smore in interaction ex: the dominant makes dominated feel that they owe them PR: Ganda ng example, it's so pinoy. It's the way you do things. Class: Utang na loob PR: it's the way you give things, not the thing that you give counts. Isa: Real domination happens when they submit themselves PR: [chuckles] that's the domination Isa; The dominant uses the feeling to appropriate your labor.  PR: It's payback time, that's a .. labor because all thsoe years when you ... When you go to doctors and give them food. Hirap yon. That's how a lot of cultures operate.  When she returned... diba pinoy ganyan? Psalabuong, when you go abroad you can't buy for yourself unless you buy for people. Ano yan. Parang suspicious yung singaporeans sa kany. What's the deal here? Why are you giving us things. .... Punta ka sa gobyerno, nagkoko [?] sila. You just go back . ... Kasi kita yung mga ninongs/nangs ... Like forever. parang it's time?  Isa; he uses time to solidify it. This rel. solidifies through time so symboolic violence becomes less and less apparent. PR: That's why feudalism works. Who are my AAL students here? It's starts with L. It's utang na loob. Landlord-kasama. The kasama's kids get sent to school. Even apo to the nth degree. Because as a landlord you have this obligation to take care of people. Tht's why they say it's soft violence because in capitalism it doesn't work, but if you resign you don't have ties. Is it in AAL or british,  Keziah: I think in ... ma'am PR: Edits board: no ble sse                          ob l ige Isa: gentle is done if brutal is impossible. PR: actually parang may pessismistic. Okay it's a statement of fact. all of us are subjected to gentle exploitation. People who work in gov. or if you're a faculty. Parang TY-TY? ... It's the faculty that runs the uni. You get paid through ATM,.... we run the uni without getting much pay. If you have a class with less than two students. Some faculty disc.'d they weren't paid for three months in an MA class. ... You look at grad school and a lot of teachers don't get paid. That's gentle exploitation. Anything more? One final note? Before we move the Marxist group?  Isa: This can account for the relationship of filipinos to politicians.  PR: Actually Bourdieu is applicable to many things in our lives. Okay that's it. Just  a very practical example as symbolic gentle violence. who pays for the ... it's not pol. correct.. urban settlers. who pays for the electricity? The gov will not pay. Girl from Eng one four three: ... [didn't catch it[ PR: they say it's for the repairs. actually dun naka tuck yun. Come election time, the politicians would say 'we protected you. blah blah' it's not under the bill of all middle class and upper middle who have meralco bill. that's a kind of habitus. ?? We have ten minutes? Would you just like to give us a background to how your report will flow? Next group: PR: I asked them to focus on Marxism so we ... Paul/Jay Jules?: Marxist lit. crit. Core predisposition of lit and art marx and engels and. Overview of what things they believe wrt to ... PR: I asked them to focus on Lenin and Trotsky because we've always thought of these people as vulgar marxists. What do they talk about? Party literature it always has to throw the line. Your report should ... Jay Jules?/Paul Eradio? : [didn't catch it] ???????????